The later name for the lands east of the river Gelion and north of the Ascar. Originally known simply as Thargelion, the land beyond Gelion, they were settled by Fëanor's fourth son Caranthir and his people, after which this region became known as Dor Caranthir, 'Caranthir's land'.
For a time, there was also a colony of Men living in the southern parts of Dor Caranthir. These Haladin were led away into the west by Haleth, to settle eventually in the Forest of Brethil.
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